Acton-Boxborough Regional School District Superintendent Steve Mills:
On Friday, June 8, 2012, our School Districts received a favorable decision from Middlesex Superior Court in Jane Doe et al. v. Acton-Boxorough Regional School District, et al.
The court upheld school districts’ long standing practice of leading children in the Pledge of Allegiance, which is also required by our state law. The court also affirmed the constitutionality of the Pledge as it is currently written, including the phrase, “under God.”
The School Districts have maintained throughout this law suit that they have not engaged in unlawful discrimination against its students, specifically with respect to their religious beliefs as was alleged in this case. We are pleased with the court’s decision regarding the claim of discrimination, and we continue to work hard to provide a positive and accepting educational environment for all of the children in the communities we serve.
Acton Patch NOTE: According to an interview with Mills on February 16, 2012, the case has cost the school district $10,000.
PPMcrevice
6:14 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
My suggestion to the "Jane Doe" who filed this frivolous case that wasted 10K+ of Acton taxpayer money: Leave. If you do not like the Pledge of Allegiance, go find another country to live in. A lot of men and women have defended this country for our freedoms and rights, including the right to say the Pledge of Allegiance. I can think of dozens of countries where any reference to God is forbidden. They would welcome you. And by the way, you are a coward for hiding behind "Jane Doe."
Jane
9:16 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Why don't you get out of MY country? In my country, we don't have government endorsement of sectarian religion at the behest of Catholic fraternal organizations. No one is trying to forbid anyone from worshiping or praying to anything or anyone. What is unacceptable is when religious organizations like the Knights of Columbus push the government to equate patriotism with religiosity.
MTC
7:12 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
As an Acton resident I am appalled that my tax money is being used for this moronic litigation. Kudos to the Judge for making the right call. Recoup the money, and fine them double for their ignorance.
I grew up in this town, and went through the AB schools during the Dr. McNulty era. I can't believe what a joke this town has become politically. It has always been way left but it is way out of hand now. What a shame!
Tell this "unknown" family that it says, "In God We Trust" on our currency, too. If you object to that feel free to send some my way. Our Country was founded on these principles, and those are the ideals we defend every day all over the world.
Jane
9:25 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Imagine you're a parent in the Soviet Union, and they have a national pledge that they strongly encourage all the children to recite in which they announce their allegiance and devotion to their country. Not too bad so far. Now imagine in that state pledge, which every child feels peer pressure to recite regardless of their convictions or the convictions of their parents, it says that being a good Soviet citizen means not believing in any gods. Disturbing, right?
Thankfully, that would be unconstitutional in the United States. Why? Because the government can't endorse or inhibit religious expression. The same goes for Christianity. Our government is secular. It is not pro- or anti-religion. That means our government can't tell its citizens, and especially not our children, which religious convictions to hold. You would certainly be disturbed if the government tried to get your children to recite a pledge saying God doesn't exist or that Allah is the one true god. Why can you not see how hypocritical you are?
Mark Wessel
8:17 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
Heaven forbid she should exercise her constitutional right to litigate. Isn't that one of the things our armed forces fight for? Are you saying that people shouldn't have that right? Or would that only be a right if it's something you agree with? "Go find another country to live in" - really?! Is that the American way, does that sentiment represent our values, principles, and ideals? I think not. And look who's anonymous PPM and MTC !
Charlie Kadlec
8:33 am on Tuesday, June 12, 2012
Yes, Mark Wessel, "Jane Doe" had the constitutional right to sue the Acton schools but it was a frivolous case and a waste of our money, as PPMcrevice says, because the school administration is following state law and does not have the right to change the wording of the Pledge even if it wanted to. Jane Doe and her attorneys should know that.
Jane Doe's children were not forced to recite the Pledge, they could (and can) remain silent. The case was just a publicity stunt, the court's decision was appropriate, it is unfortunate that our system does not provide for payment of the defendant's legal costs by the litigant, I doubt that this case would have been filed if Jane Doe knew that she may have to pay.
Charlie Kadlec
Acton
Jane
9:33 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
You clearly do not understand how our legal system works, Charlie. Cause lawyers look for plaintiffs who are willing to litigate cases all the time. That's what happened here. Sure, AB was only doing what it was obligated by law to do, but the school didn't have to spend $10,000 defending itself. It could have easily chosen to hire a cheap attorney and wait for another interest group to step in with a more expensive lawyer should they choose to.
And yes, legally they can remain silent. But that wasn't always the case (see Minersville School District v. Gobitis). It was thanks to litigation like this that children are not legally bound to say the pledge in the first place. I suggest you learn some more about U.S. history before making such ignorant remarks.
Edward Weagle
9:13 am on Tuesday, June 12, 2012
Love it how PPMcrevise has the audacity to critize Jane Doe for being anonymous but yet also chose to be unidentified.
Mark Wessel
8:32 am on Wednesday, June 13, 2012
Point taken Charlie about the attorneys knowing better. It seems like neither side should have let this get to court. Odd that this needs to be an issue if the Supreme Court ruled in 1943 that we can't force kids to say the pledge. As in so many cases, it's the lawyers who profited in the end. I do wish that people would stop to blaming the plaintiff though!
Michael Fleming
3:57 pm on Thursday, June 14, 2012
If you are going to sue a school for an issue that is well established in law, then I DO blame the plaintiff. Everyone knows these things cost money to litigate. No one had a gun to his/her head forcing them to file s suit. But jeez, anonymously? What a weasel!
Jane Doe...or who ever you are...grow up or grow a pair, either way, THIS blogger isn't anonymous....
Mike Fleming
Boxborough
Jane
9:38 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
That's not how the American legal system works. The American Humanist Association doesn't have standing, so they needed someone who had standing in order to file the lawsuit. Because of bigoted people like yourself, the family chose to remain anonymous. Nevertheless, the real plaintiff in the suit is the AHA. Also, America has a long history of overturning well-established law that is discriminatory through the courts, usually losing at first as well. This case isn't unique in that regard.
Kathleen Surdan
4:07 pm on Thursday, June 14, 2012
I don't understand why our town was sued if we are following state law. Shouldn't the family have been advised to sue the state of MA? Does anyone know?
Jane
9:42 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
No because it's the school district that's enforcing the law on the students (hypothetically, speaking). In a better system, the American Humanist Association might be able to sue the federal/state government directly without the Acton family or the school district getting involved, but we do not live in that system.
Michael Fleming
11:18 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Jane
Please explain how my comment was bigoted. Dying to hear...
Michael Fleming
11:30 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Jane...it seems that you want PPMcrevice to "get out of your country"...you call MMP
A "hypocrite"...you want Charlie Kadlec to "learn more US history before making such ignorant remarks"...and I have somehow distinguished myself as a "bigot".
My my, you've been a busy little girl, haven't you? Seems you are the only person on these pages that has it all right, eh?
What happened, did someone buy you a an iPad recently?
Intelligent discussion and honest back and forth is necessary in a free society, and yes, there ARE more points of view that are valid other than YOURS.
Dont be a bully.
Jane
11:44 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012
First of all, only one view is right. While it's not necessarily mine, if two people have contradicting views, at least one of them is wrong, if not both.
Secondly, my comments are in response to the "bullying" coming from the original comments. For instance, PPMcrevice said, "My suggestion to the "Jane Doe" who filed this frivolous case that wasted 10K+ of Acton taxpayer money: Leave. If you do not like the Pledge of Allegiance, go find another country to live in." Therefore, I suggest PPMcrevice is the one who should leave. But who needs to understand context or make meaningful points when it's so much easier to just troll?
Since the comment about you being bigoted seems to be what touched a nerve with you, I'll explain. When minorities have challenged discriminatory laws and practices in our country, they have frequently faced retribution in their communities. Therefore, many choose to remain anonymous out of fear of retaliation from ignorant, hateful people who want to take out their anger on them. Just look at what happened to Jessica Ahlquist. Many local Christians threatened her and her family after she initiated a similar, but successful, lawsuit against her school district.
Michael Fleming
12:05 am on Monday, June 18, 2012
Yes, I know the definition of a bigot. Now tell me exactly how I became a bigot? Because I feel a person making a claim in court ought to be man enough to identify him or her self? THAT makes me a bigot??
Also, your stance on "only one view is right" is jaw droppingly appalling.
Many people have many backgrounds, experiences, parents, schools and personal journeys that shape their views and outlooks on life. There are as many correct points of view on this planet as there are people. For you to pronounce there is only "one right one" makes me think that the next words out of your mouth will be: " ...MINE!!"
Jane
3:12 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
Let me ask you why exactly you want to know who in Acton filed this lawsuit? Do you realize what kind of retaliation they and their children would face from people like you? Again, look up the Jessica Ahlquist case. There's a reason our courts allow people to file lawsuits anonymously, and it's to protect them from people like you.
"Also, your stance on "only one view is right" is jaw droppingly appalling."
Really? Because my view is that there is only one right view, while your view is that multiple, contradicting views are right. If your position is true, then my view is correct, just like everyone else's.
"For you to pronounce there is only "one right one" makes me think that the next words out of your mouth will be: " ...MINE!!""
Uh, clearly you can't read very well, Mr. Fleming. "First of all, only one view is right. While it's not necessarily mine, if two people have contradicting views, at least one of them is wrong, if not both." People's personal experiences, schools, backgrounds, parents, etc. lead them to have views that ARE wrong. If you are raised by racist parents in a small, all-white town down South and you end up believing black people are inferior to white people, your views aren't as right as someone who does not believe those things. Not all points of view are equally valid.